Thanks so much...will hang on....I've wanted this for a long time...can wait a little longer....

rustyjames_shopper, July 12, 2007; 2:27 AM

Legitimate?

Harkit released this and it is quite legit I assure you but I would like to have a copy of FSM's Klute if ever relased just for the sake of having it. FSM always does a fine job with their productions.

PS

I had no idea... I should have bought a dozen!

http://www.amazon.de/Klute-Ost/dp/B000EUMKY0

Ridiculous!

PPS

AND USED!

serifiot, July 12, 2007; 11:01 AM

As for the vinyl released in the late 70's. It's a legit thing as well.

A new release would be legit too. It's all good!

The first vinyl release of this score has a sort of cosmic magic about it. A strange and unusual score, sinister and eerie with much foreboding lurking around each and every corner. Nothing glamorous as far as the current definition goes although erotic in a creepy sort of way.

I suggest every human being on the planet experience it. One of the best scores of the 1970's or any decade for that matter.

victoravalentine, July 12, 2007; 11:29 AM

Agreed, knives! But I sincerely doubt that there will be a release by FSM within the next years.

coma, July 12, 2007; 12:57 PM

I hate opening Pandora's Box again on KLUTE, but that Harkit Release as legit as it may/ or may not have been was badly presented, if you read the liner notes or even looked at the quality it was below sub-par. I bought a Used copy of it burned it and resold it. It is sort of an embarrasement of a release being that they had so many typos in the notes it was crazy. It would be cool if FSM released a version of it.... How does anyone know that they are attempting it or not is the bigger question?

JackDVD78, July 12, 2007; 5:58 PM

I'd say, better a badly presented release than none. If there'll be a more perfectly designed
release, I'll sure buy it. Until then, I'm more than glad this one exists. Just my two cents...


PS: Jack, the shelves are filled with incredible numbers of loveless and crappy releases. Many of
them from the so-called Majors.

coma, July 12, 2007; 6:28 PM

Coma do they contain typos too many to count? Most major lables at least have an editor it is as if who ever wrote the notes said ok let's not do the spell check on it lol / I just think if you are gonna release something try to do a good job but they didn't seem to care. but for the sake of hearing what they offered I guess that is fine just don't open the BOOKLET!

JackDVD78, July 12, 2007; 8:41 PM

The Ahakrit IS NOT legit. Here's what famous FilmScoreMonthly.com board member vinylscrubber has to say about it:

"I post this as the person who unwittingly put this LP transfer into the hands of someone at Harkit.

About 8-9 years back, I transferred my old 70's boot/promo LP of KLUTE into a ProTools session and painstakingly did a "waveform redraw" cleanup of it and ended up sending a copy to a disgruntled antique dealer in the U.K. when he flaked out over not taking top bid at eBay where I sold the now useless LP of it.

The LP carried the etched catalogue number of the cancelled Warner album and had no track titles for the various cuts. Knowing the film so well, I came up with my own track titles and also dropped a really irritating sitar track. Imagine my surprise and amusement when a few years later Harkit
releases their CD with MY TRACK TITLES, also without the sitar track!

Believe me, this cleanup isn't a patch on what I later did with my WAVES RESTORATION Software, and I STILL
look forward to pitching the final result when FSM finally releases their version from the three track masters.

In short--wait for the forthcoming FSM release."

tharpdevenport, July 12, 2007; 11:11 PM

Let me add my current presumptions.

Legit or not, Harkit presumably pressed and sold between 1.000 and 3.000 copies. The
general number of people interested in this score is quite limited.

There are some among us, who refused to buy the Harkit release - no matter for what reason
- plus those who would be willing to buy a second release, plus those collecting FSM releases.
Summarized, this doesn't make an impressive number.

If you keep in mind, that Harkit managed to satisfy the general interest in this title, you
could limit the number of possible sales for a fast re-release to a low to medium three-digit
number. Even if you remember that FSM seems to be calculating with 10-years+ sell-out
periods, it would be a mercantile bomb for sure.


@thar: Sorry, but that's just hearsay to me.

@Jack: You'd be going nuts, if you'd count all those typos, wrongly spelled names etc. ;-))

coma, July 13, 2007; 10:32 AM

"The now useless L.P. of it"? You are so full of it it's unbelievable. The L.P. from the late 70's is a work of art. Try placing a bid on it when it pops up on ebay once in a blue moon. Not that the money aspect of it matters to me but it's certain you'll pay at least a couple hundred dollars.

Worthless to you? Perhaps. To me? Not by a long shot.

It's as if there are those who try to render an entire aspect of quality culture as being obsolete for the sake of promoting whatever latest technology has taken the forefront.

As always, I'm proud to be of a minority

Whoever this nitwit who calls himself "vinylscrubber" on the FSM board is. I'm here to say he knows nothing. He sounds like a major asshole to me.

victoravalentine, July 13, 2007; 11:24 AM

Wham, bam, thank you Mam'... *LOL*

coma, July 13, 2007; 12:48 PM

vynalscrubber is a good person of character and standing. A lot more than can be said of a number of posters at other boards.

And the possible future FSM release will likely be from something far better than a LP source... (HINT)


And further more, if he still knows whom he sold it to, the buyer of the old LP can confirm any etches that occur in exactly the same spots on the Hakrit in the same exact way, and FURTHER MORE Warner Bros. can confirm this title WAS NOT liscaned from them for an official release.


Get your heads out of your butts.


Even if a poor, poor seller for FSM, it should be noted they got plenty of titles there that will take 10 or more years to sell. Sometimes ... Lukas does it for the love. You gotta love what you do.

tharpdevenport, July 13, 2007; 3:48 PM

FSM or even Intrada do not release cd's that have been transferred from vinyl???

What is wrong with using a pristine vinyl source if no other source is available?

Surely I will buy the FSM release if it ever comes out simply because I would be curious enough to see if I will be getting a better sound from FSM and more so because I like the way FSM presents their releases.

And why this itch with Harkit's "Klute" not being a legit release? On what information is this based?

What is legit in Europe might not be legit in the US... that perhaps is another story which I am no expert in and frankly have no interest in.

I have several wonderful Harkit releases with great music and they all have decent sound quality as far as I'm concerned and inlays that do not look like tissue paper.

Klute sounds fine. What is wrong with it? The front inlay is fine and no different than some other inlays from other labels. The front art work is good as well. What else is there?

Varese for example has released on numerous occassions more simplistic front inlays than Klute's with absolutely no information whatsoever concerning the music on the perspective cd.

As far as typos, I don't purchase cd's to sit around and read their liner notes more than once and hardly do but the last time I read the front inlay from "Klute" I don't remember noticing any spelling mistakes.

My copy is somewhere. Could someone read the front inlay? Any typos? The English making typos? I don't believe it. Harkit is not an Italian label.

serifiot, July 13, 2007; 4:45 PM

It wasn't licensed from Warner Bros for the simple reason that mainstream labels were not interested in bothering with anything other than potential million sellers.

As for the guy at FSM who does it for love. Not a new concept. Quality and craftmanship has been part of the scene for years.

If you want to talk trend setters in film music recordings a tip of the hat should go to the three original producers at Varese Sarabande (Tom Null,Scott Holten, Chris Kuchler). Who put quality and craftsmanship into USA produced recordings during a time when the occasional film music release from big labels was of such poor quality it was unbelievable.



victoravalentine, July 19, 2007; 6:22 PM

It doesn't matter whether mainstream labels want to deal with it, any label who does not go through the legal channels, has released a bootleg. And what's more, they didn't even look for an unplayed copy, as FSM has done before, but rather mooch of someone else's and use their track titles, and it's missing a cue!

tharpdevenport, July 13, 2007; 5:54 PM

Yeah well the original pressing is a quality item regardless or not of legitimate licencing. I've listened to it. I like it.

I remember when my brother bought his copy in Chicago in 1979. Rose Records on Rush street. I bought the "Birdman Of Alcatraz" the same day at the same place.

I can't stand when someone who probably wasn't even born when the original LP comes along and tries to render it useless when the fact remains, vinyl recordings are the format of choice for many music lovers. And it's not because we accept second best either.

victoravalentine, July 14, 2007; 11:12 AM

I am listening to this right now!

Are we talking about Special Collector's Limited Edition "Klute" by Michael Small released by Harkit Records in 2006 with label # HRKCD 8007 and UPN 5055055900077 with 18 beautiful tracks of great film music achievement???

If yes... I have no clue as to what the problem is with this production.

The sound is excellent!

The overall production of the cd soundtrack, and I mean inlays front/back and cd itself are all fine.

The art work is fine.

I read the front detailed inlay which provides an excellent psychological in depth analysis of the film and its characters in p-e-r-f-e-c-t English mind you and skimmed through the back inlay and only found ONE tiny bit of an insignificant typo and that is in Michael Small's biography in the beginning of the second paragraph as one opens the cd...

"Han under-appeciated composer,'' bla bla bla...

Instead of ''An under appreciated-composer'' and so on, which he certainly was!

Have any of you with negative comments actually read the front inlay?

I had forgotten the way the cd looked like and sounded but now having it on my hands it is nothing to what has been stated AT ALL folks... sorry!

I am so glad the release of the cd was brought up in SC's forum and went on to purchase myself a copy as this seems to be very expensive to get a hold of now.

Thanks coma... I think it was you who informed us.

I should have bought a dozen to finance other titles but that is okay.

"All music composed, arranged and conducted by Michael L. Small. Music published and licenced by Warner Tamerlane Publishing. Design by B. Jones. Research and notes by Kathryn Simon. Special thanks to Travis Hooper & Chuck Eby. Restoration by Raymond Steeg at Dutch Masterers. This edition copyrighted and published 2006 by Harkit Entertainment Ltd. printed and manufactured in EU."

ADD

serifiot, July 14, 2007; 3:05 PM

Under appreciated composer? According to who?

I can't stand when people use lines like that. It's as if for a person to be considered successful they need to be recognized by ten million slobbering morons who wouldn't recognize talent if it flicked them on the nose.

Have you ever heard the similarities between the "Klute" score and what Elfman did with "A Simple Plan"?

victoravalentine, July 14, 2007; 4:56 PM

I have Elfman's "A Simple Plan". I'll find it and give that a listen.

The front inlay reads...

Michael Small was born in NYC in 1939. While growing in NJ, he took piano lessons as a child, and later while at Williams College in Williamstown, Mass. began writing musical comedy shows. A return to NYC in 1962 found him receiving formal musical training with Meyer Kupferman who was head of the musical department at Sarah Lawrence College.

An under appreciated composer, he wrote the music for more than fifty films, including The Stepford Wives, The China Syndrome, Night Moves, Marathon Man and The Postman Always Rings Twice.

Klute comes from 1971 and was an especially atmospheric score which raises the hairs on the back of the neck. Mr. Small had a long professional relationship with Alan J. Pakula.

Michael Small died in NY in 2003 from cancer at the age of 64.

serifiot, July 14, 2007; 8:14 PM

I've been driving myself crazy trying to find this cd and I've been unsuccessful. I'm not a picky collector, I just want the songs.
I would be eternally indebted to anyone who could send me the song files (I'm sure some of you have it on itunes or SOMETHING)

mydoorbell55@yahoo.com

my sanity rests in your lucky hands.

mydoorbell55, November 6, 2007; 1:36 AM