LOUDspeakers of course... I would like to preserve my hearing!

As far as neighbors...

Well... in those years of being a horny university student and a happy bachelor, I used to preoccupy myself (besides...) by playing lots of music and by doing all sorts of recordings by mixing/editing... shit like that.

I once had my next door neighbor knock on my door while playing music loudly and thought to myself... OOPS!, I've gone overboard.

To my suprise, they commented on the great music I was playing and they asked me if I could make a cassette tape for them.

I was thrilled and I'm sure you might have guessed what I was doing for the next few hours.

No... shame on you!

I wasn't screwing my next door neighbor.

serifiot, March 20, 2008; 4:25 PM

(whig_editor) If you can't realize that music is in fact a sensory experience and need to boost your own ego by humoring yourself into believing you have a higher level of understanding that's fine. Don't expect me to buy into your horseshit as well.

I like the experience of sound filling a room. Becoming part of the world and not limited to a pair of cups pressed against my ears. The only cups I enjoy having pressed against my ears are D cups.

Film music is utilized as a sensory experience. The sounds are meant to stimulate the entire range of human emotion. The bass of Jannick Top serves as a heartbeat throughout the recording "Cosmos Music In Movieland" and gives the music a lifelike pulse that coincides directly with my own.

So what the hell makes you think I'm rich because I say that I prefer loudspeakers over headphones? And what is whig anyway? The call letters of a radio station?

You're a bigger goddamn nut than I am.

And oh yeah, by the way... I also enjoy smoking a bit of marijuana while listening to music. You have a problem with that too?

One more thing knucklehead. If you think screwing a woman is nothing more than a sensory experience your screwing the wrong hole.

victoravalentine, March 20, 2008; 9:32 PM

LOL! LOL! LOL!... I was screwing her D cups!!!!!!...

:- ))))))

serifiot, March 20, 2008; 5:18 PM

What the hell.

victoravalentine, March 20, 2008; 5:19 PM

LOL!... No knives... I was in heaven!... LOL! LOL!...

Enough... LOL! Sorry if I curved off the subject a bit! I'm in tears!

serifiot, March 20, 2008; 5:26 PM

I definitely prefer loudspeakers!

I like headphones when walking around, of course...

Basically, both experiences have their advantages. Sometimes (at lower volume levels) there is much more detail to be heard on headphones, as well as much more panoramic effect. But I completely agree with wwk that music can only really overwhelm me when it fills the room and becomes physical. I guess whig doesn't ever go to concerts. Or are there headphone concerts? THAT would be a picture to imagine...

I don't like the overanalytical approach to music as whig describes it. At least not as generalized as he puts it. Music IS a physical experience, not a puerly intellectual one.

As for cups, let's all relax, have a cup of tea or likewise colored liquid, put in a nice bit of aural stimula and just do what it is we're all here in these forums for - enjoy the music. With or without headphones ;-)

Oh, by the way, wearing headphones AND having the speakers on gives a nice experience as well. Oh, except when the speakers are on by accident, it's about 2.00 AM and one can't hear the neighbors ringing for 30 or so minutes... THAT was a session that left a bitter aftertaste, lol...

Best,
Burnie


blinddoc, March 20, 2008; 5:31 PM

If whig would be a determined character, he'd long grabbed his cosy Louisville slugger and gave
his neighbors in lesson in sound and vision.... ;))

Me, I never came across a shop selling quietspeakers. So come on, PLAY IT LOUD!

coma, March 20, 2008; 7:28 PM

I didn't pay a small fortune for my Mordaunt Shorts so I could listen through a set of frikkin headphones! Headphones are for trains and commuting. Loudspeakers are for your own little castle. Wait 'til the neighbours leave then go mental, or simpler still live in a detached or semi. I can't wait to set up the small theatre in the attic, I'm in the middle of converting it for screenings and the system in that is gonna be awesome. Oh! And I'm pretty sure I've got the right hole, whole!!! It certainly is more than a sensory experience, Olly!!!

TheSaint.786, March 20, 2008; 9:02 PM

I like both, they both have pros and cons. It depends on the situation i guess. I do a lot of
walking so i listen to my iPod a lot so i've gotten used to listening to music through
headphones. Headphones usually have better dynamics and more clarity than standard
loudspeakers.

However I still love the presence of listening to music out loud in a room or wherever. I have
a pair of studio monitors hooked up to my computer which is about the closest you can get to
the sound quality of the music heard through decent headphones.

So if you're asking which is better listening experience that's up to you decide.. if your asking
which is the better sound quality headphones or loudspeakers I'd say headphones have the
sound quality edge over loudspeakers but I listen to both! ;)

tranzishun, March 21, 2008; 1:34 AM

(whig_editor) You're making a lot of assumptions about me and falling flat on your face doing so. I don't crank anything up dude.

You look at the world based upon your own self satisfied concept of what you foolishly believe are absolute answers. I'm a little more open minded than that. If you say powerful music is intended to be experienced in such a limited way as through a set of headphones I say you are coward unwilling to accept the fact some things are much bigger in thought and idea than guys like you will ever be. I have a contempt towards people like you. I often deal with that contempt with laughter. There's no better way because quite simply, you are more simple minded than you are capable of realizing. You cry out and scream to be taken as a serious intellectual when in fact you are just another fool needing reassurance. You'll get none from me.

You'll need to bang your head against the wall a long long time before you'll succeed in making this human being feel as if he is somehow inferior to an intellect you don't possess.

You're laughable guy. I'll take that coffee only if it's fresh. The leftovers you can drink while trying to figure out which is the right hole.

And by the way... Bernard Herrmann despised people like you. He never suffered arrogant fools lightly.

victoravalentine, March 21, 2008; 3:30 AM

You underestimate the power of dreams which do have a profound and very real impact. Dreams are thoughts and thoughts are real. An extension of thought. Dreams do in fact cause harm as well as good.

The full power of musical information cannot be experienced without sound. Thought of as an afterthought should not be confused as such. All music is in fact sound yet all sound is not necessarily music.

We can continue this pseudo-intellectual discussion back and forth and see who falters then falls first. It won't be me for the simple fact that I don't claim to have an overwhelming understanding of those things impossible for the observer to understand. The creative process is in fact a personal one which extends itself outwards though whatever given means. I can appreciate it as inspiration in regards to my own personal creative process. I have no need to cling to it in order to feed my own sense of self.

It's people like me who make your life hell? That's a peculiar thing to say. It also lends insite into your true nature. The throwing around of blame for your own failings and shortcomings. You're a fraud. It's too bad for you the world isn't comprised entirely of people like you. Then perhaps you'd be able to find the right hole.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAKdBhKFMYg

victoravalentine, March 21, 2008; 2:00 PM

Loudspeakers have an advantage of closer replicating the sound environment of "being there", ( approximation to being there = $$$!) however, good headphones ( by which I mean damn expensive audiophile quality) can send the listener right through the pleasure ceiling. And at a fraction of the cost of high-end loudspeakers.

Read for example, the tributes lauded upon Grado's latest model, the GS 1000 headphones, by the audiophile media. (www.gradolabs.com)

I've owned the Grado SR 225s, for a couple of years myself , and can't get enough of them, even though my full size stereo is no slouch.

Your comments WWK...

Regards,

James-Toronto
www.ISawEarthlings.com



johnbarryisgod, April 1, 2008; 10:22 PM

That's a nice set of headphones. An entirely different experience than my Sony's I'm sure. Truly nice headphones. Would love to hear how they sound.

For years I listened to music through a Marantz system. And I mean a good Marantz system when they were manufactured in Chatsworth California. Not the new models I've seen recently. Over the past several years due to circumstances I've only been able to listen with headphones. The reason for my post was sort of a longing for the open air sound of the speaker experience.

victoravalentine, April 2, 2008; 4:01 PM