Absolutely. 100% bootlegs.

I'm not sure about the country of origin. I've never seen one of these closer enough...

angeldibujo, November 16, 2011; 2:16 PM

They are bootlegs.
The country of origin is Argentina.

soundtrack, November 17, 2011; 3:29 PM

These are EXCELLENT bootlegs, I might add - where else are you going to find the complete two-disc set of ALL the orchestral music from the THING by Ennio Morricone on a 500 hand-numbered issue?
Not all bootlegs are bad; some have surpassed the original factory issues in both quantity and quality!

lilbrucems44, January 3, 2024; 6:08 PM

Could be, but it is still stolen stuff.
And the more people support these criminals, the sooner it's the end of the regular companies, who pay all the royalties and copyrights and who deliver according the law.
Is that what you want!? Or don't you care?

aouvrier, November 19, 2011; 3:21 AM

Stolen from who? When? Where? Who decided NOT to publish the music that music lovers are entitled to hear? How do you know what you consider "stolen stuff" isn't public domain?
Who are the real criminals? People who offer music we want to hear or the people who want to sit on their music because they failed to make a deal with a record company?

lilbrucems44, January 3, 2024; 6:08 PM

Maybe it's new for you but there are people - say composers - who make a living out of making music for movies.
Strange isn't it, that they want to be paid for it? It's almost criminal that these composers don't want that other people, like the people of Cimmerian Records, grab their music and make a lot of profit without paying the copyright owner, the composer.
And you support a company like that. It seems to me that you don't care at all where music comes from, as long as you can grab it..!?
Are you a member or supporter of the occupy movement or so?


aouvrier, November 21, 2011; 5:38 AM

Your ridiculous question deserves a ridiculous answer. Sarcasm won't help you! Of course composers deserve to be paid for their music. How does their music get "grabbed" in the first place? Do all composers do their homework and make sure their music is protected from the start? Did you interview Ennio Morricone to find out if he is purple with rage about that 500 CD release of ALL his music? Any composer can protect and copyright his ENTIRE score if he/she so desires and prosecute violators. Look at all the bootlegs listed by Soundtrackcollector.com! They specify ILLEGAL bootlegs. How do you know this is an ILLEGAL bootleg? If I am going on a long trip I have no problem putting 28-30 songs from albums I have purchased on one Cd because I know I can't take 30 albums with me. Is THAT illegal? The OCCUPY morons have no organized strategy or plan; they are just hoodlums. Try categorizing your own ghosts.

lilbrucems44, January 3, 2024; 6:08 PM

aouvrier, who is paying royalties to the composer when they re-sell their promotional cds for $250?
That's illegal, yet all the sites (I will not name them, so they don't start to cry about, but we all know which) re-sell those cds for huge amounts of $$.
Not to mention, certain site where you probably purchase your scores, sold pirate cds not so long ago (we all know which, no need to mention).

The composer most of the times is listed only as the composer (by moral issues, don't know the legal term in english), but have no copyrights on his own work, because companies force them to sign a contract giving them away, and getting paid just for the "service". Royalties goes to the company, and the composer can only hope to get a new job to keep winning $.

Forcing a customer to pay $280 over the original price for an item, or that was given for free is also a crime.

Guess some retailers who ripped off people will not be able to commit their crimes anymore.

scorefana, November 22, 2011; 9:34 AM

@ scorefana:

I know well what you mean, but let me point out, that no one is
forced to pay an asking price. And secondly, demanding high prices
may be greedy, ridiculous and abject, but it's not a crime - just free
market economy. Perhaps it will comfort you, that most of these
overpriced items do not sell.

Greetz,

David

coma, November 23, 2011; 5:28 AM

Coma

Let me remind you LIMITED editions make impossible for all to get their copies. How do you expect all can pay the original cd cost when its OOP in 1 week and the only way is buy in re-sellings or auctions?

Not to mention some people buy 10 or 20 copies (or websites, buy 100 copies) and right after its sold out start to sell it 5 or 10 times its price taking advantage of that.
That in particular is heinous, because "websites" purchase in large amounts, therefore get much lower prices, its total rip off if they sell a huge price above the cover price.


scorefana, November 23, 2011; 8:44 AM

Retail stores just follow the law of supply and demand. I do not
neglect the fact, that they sometimes heat up the shortage in order
to push their possible earnings. But if you look closely, those who
overstretch it, mostly do not sell their items.

Just think of Cliff Martinez' score for Solaris. Right after the CD was
sold out, the prices went straight up to more than a hundred bucks,
but hardly anyone bought them. And now? Prices are back to earth.
So what?

I'd say that patience is a collector's best friend.

coma, November 23, 2011; 2:04 PM

Nope, some retail stores follow the rule of "lets win as much as we can".

The cd is in high demand and OOP? Lets rise the price to $200, is not sold? Lower it to $180, $170...etc
Don't have to remind you which retailer did this recently with a highly demanded score.

And they would have sold ALL for those higher prices, if it wasnt for the fact they were exposed. By that time, at least 5 people paid $100 for a disc that cost $19.99 one day before.

You brought as an example a score from a middle known composer, and from a not so popular soundtrack (or movie).

We are talking of scores that had lot of demand but they had lame incomplete releases, and even those releases cost like $50-100.

Its a new world, people cant afford $50 in a single cd, when they can get 4 discs for $39.99 in other place.


scorefana, November 30, 2011; 4:43 PM