This was discussed a few months ago on http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.asp?threadID=29534&;forumID=1

It seems like there never was a legitimate release, so the ******* CD you mention is probably inevitable if you really want to listen to the music.

Regards,

Urs

P.S.: Make sure to COPY and PASTE the whole link, clicking is not enough.

handstand, January 29, 2006; 2:01 AM

Thank you very much Urs. Right now I'm going to check it at FSM.

Greetings,

Angel

angeldibujo, January 29, 2006; 2:08 AM

Sorry, the link does not seem to display correct here

When you cut and paste it, remove the ; from it.

http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.asp?threadID=29534&;forumID=1

handstand, January 29, 2006; 2:16 AM

OK. Thanks again.

angeldibujo, January 29, 2006; 2:18 AM

Thanks a lot to everybody.

After reading the FSM forum and your opinions, I'm affraid I'm not going to give a buck for the "Pallottola" release.

Without a doubt, the best choice is purchasing the "Bear Family Records" release of CANTO MORRICONE (Vol. 1) containing the original song from the movie: DEEP DOWN (with lyrics by Audrey Nohra Stainton and the amaizing voice of Christy).

Best regards,

Angel

angeldibujo, January 29, 2006; 2:43 AM

Hóla Angel.

The CD that you are referring to (Pallottola Foro OTHR-1968) is indeed a bootleg, as rinse_dream mentioned previously, but the other CD release that is listed in this database (Sycodelic SYCO:0011) is an official, licensed product, manufactured in Italy in 2001. I purchased it from www.dustygroove.com a few years ago, and they NEVER EVER deal with bootlegs.

The packaging (of the Sycodelic release) is top-notch: a tri-fold cardboard digipak complete with original poster art and campy photo stills from the film, and of course the disc is factory-pressed. Although the sound quality is not the greatest (on the Sycodelic CD), I am certain that this is a legitimate release (unlike the Pallottola Foro CD, which I've been told has much worse sound quality than the Sycodelic release).

Be aware that the Sycodelic CD also has dialogue and SFX on some tracks. It is obvious, however, that the sound effects and dialogue are mixed in intentionally and with good taste, in order to enhance the listening experience, and not a result of a direct-from-video soundtrack transfer (as is sometimes the case with bootlegs that are recorded from DVDs and other questionable sources).

Hasta la próxima, amigo...



American.Nightmare, January 29, 2006; 3:09 AM

Amreican Nightmare

I am sure your comments are sent with the best of intentions, however they are utter nonsense.

There has never, and probably never will be, a legit release for the reasons previously mentioned.

Your release will be exactly the same as the Pallottola release, have you actually compared the 2 recordings before you made your comments?
Just because the release you have is packaged nicely, do you seriously believe this does'nt make it a non legit release?
As for Dustygroove, well most of the usual retailers have been selling the release for ages.
I have not heard the release that you mention but I have it from a reliable source that all the DIABOLIK cd's come from the same laserdisc recording.

Cheers Dave

leoflagg, January 30, 2006; 1:55 PM

david.anthony,

There is no evidence whatsoever to back up the claim that the Sycodelic Records release is a bootleg. Just because the two releases come from the same source doesn't mean that they are both bootlegs. Even official, licensed products can be derived from poor source material such as a laserdisc. For instance, the Trunk Records release on CD of the "Deep Throat" soundtrack, which sounds absolutely awful and (if I remember correctly) was mastered from an original LP, is a licensed release. Sure, there have been other bootlegs of the Deep Throat soundtrack that have been made from the same source material (original LP), but that doesn't automatically make the Trunk Records release a bootleg, does it?

Perhaps the gents at Sycodelic got the rights to release the Diabolik soundtrack, but their only source material was the laserdisc. If they have the legal right to release the CD then it's not a bootleg, regardless of how bad the sound quality is, or whether or not another CD with the same content and from the same source material was previously released illegally by another label.

Until I see substantial proof (and not just the word of some anonymous third-party "reliable source") that the Sycodelic Records release is IN FACT a bootleg, I will continue to believe that it is an official, licensed product.

Even if by some chance the Sycodelic CD turned out to be a bootleg, it wouldn't detract in the least from my enjoyment of the CD, because it's one helluva groovy soundtrack.

American.Nightmare, January 30, 2006; 11:37 PM

American Nightmare

I nearly fell off my seat laughing when I read your original comments, and the same when I read your reply.
What evidence do you have that your 'Sycodelic' release is legit?
What other soundtracks have Sycodelic released?
Why do you believe that just because Dustygroove sold this to you that it is not a bootleg? All the other soundtrack retailers like Intrada and Movie Boulevard have sold the DIABOLIK cd (the Pallottola release that is).
Presumably if the Sycodelic is legit there are contact details for the company on the CD you have?

The answer is that all the DANGER DIABOLIK cd's came from the same laserdisc source and they all have the same sound quality.

I do agree with your last comments though, it is a great soundtrack, and it's better to have this recording than nothing at all, (or spending hours trying to record it from a DVD etc).

Let's try and end this amicably.
If you're so convinced you have a legit release & that the sound quality on your release is better than the Pallottola release, please contact me offline as I have a suggestion how we can resolve this issue.

Ciao Dave

PS COMA

There are lots of bootleg recordings listed on this website........

leoflagg, January 30, 2006; 11:02 PM

david.anthony,

I have no interest in "resolving this issue" with you, as I couldn't care less about your opinion at this point. Sorry to be so blunt, but I'm just being honest.

Sincerely...

American.Nightmare, January 30, 2006; 11:39 PM

Wow! Many thanks to all of you, and please, take it easy, my friends.

I couldn't think this were such a controversial point!

Anyway, during my research I've read in several places that the Pallottola Foro CD was released in 2001, while the Sycodelic release appeared in 2002. Since both CDs have the same track listing (with the exception of the strange last track in the Sycodelic presentation), it's easy to think that Sycodelic was a rip off from the Pallottola... Who knows? In any case, I'm affraid both CDs are bootlegs, and the best thing we can do is treasure our copies (bootlegs or not) and wait for the miracle to happen.
Perhaps a small label like Digitmovies could find the way to release a first ever official release of this soundtrack. They did it with OK CONNERY, didn't they? And that score also was said once to be lost. Nowadays everything is possible with soundtrack releases.

Thanks again to all of you for your interest in my question.

angeldibujo, January 31, 2006; 12:03 AM

American Nightmare

'david.anthony,

I have no interest in "resolving this issue" with you, as I couldn't care less about your opinion at this point. Sorry to be so blunt, but I'm just being honest.'

Fine, I take that as an admission that I was correct in my comments. You obviously don't like to be proved wrong, or in fact have anybody disagree with your frankly preposterous views.

Go and hide behind your nickname......





leoflagg, January 31, 2006; 12:33 AM

Dusty Groove never deals in bootlegs? Don't make me laugh. All those modern vinyl reissues of rare funk albums? Bootleg as all get out. They sell the "Ultimate Breaks & Beats" and "Dusty Fingers" albums, which are well known bootlegs.

That's nothing against the store, because they're my source for all the above, but saying they never deal in bootlegs is wrong.

And yes, it's safe to say, this CD is a bootleg.

coke, May 25, 2006; 10:28 PM

I´ve seen the cover of the official record, so ther must have been an original soundtrack album once, even if only in very limited copies.
has anyone ever actually heard of it?

the-visitor, January 20, 2008; 5:53 PM

The Sycodelik is definitely a bootleg. It sounds as if it was recorded directly off of a Danger: Diabolik VHS tape and channeled through a 12-year olds boom box then recorded with the crudest tape recorder ever made. But......beggars can't be choosers.

rjgrant41, March 6, 2008; 5:32 PM